Posted by Mark On September - 15 - 2010 7 Comments

Somewhere in West Tampa last night, a grizzled old baseball man put down his cafe con leche, took out his cigar stub, and turned to his buddy to say “what is Crawford thinking?  Never make the third out at third base.”

That’s it.  That’s the rule.  Right?

Here’s CC’s answer to the question:

“When you get thrown out it’s easy to say you shouldn’t have went,” Crawford said. “That’s just the way we play. I do that all the time and I’m safe, and the one time, he got me. I can’t take nothing away from him, he got me.”

You know what?  He’s right.  The Rays are where they are because they use their strengths (like their team speed) to pressure their opponents into mistakes.  Give Golson credit.  He made a perfect throw.  But, if the throw wasn’t perfect, CC was safe.  It was that close even though the ball wasn’t that deep.

But Crawford’s risk makes sense at a less philosophical level.  Jorge Posada was catching.  Posada told the Times:

“I couldn’t believe he was running, to tell you the truth; get the third out there at third base,” Posada said. “Because he would have scored on a base hit. It doesn’t matter, he’s that quick, he doesn’t need to get to third base to score, really.”

What Posada meant was, ‘I am so glad we threw him out because that way, no one will realize that I am not a good catcher.’

Posada, of course, is forgetting that CC scores from 3rd – but not 2nd – when a ball goes to the backstop.  And, Jorge Posada has let 142 balls find the backstop in his career, more than any active catcher.  This season, Posada has been in the bucket for 8 passed balls (one fewer than Rob Johnson’s AL-leading 9) and 27 wild pitches.

What’s more likely, a Willy Aybar game-tying base hit against Mariano Rivera (career 1-for-3 with a SO against Mo), or a passed ball?  For that matter, what is more likely, a game-winning hit from Brad Hawpe (never faced Rivera) or Rocco (1-for-4 with 2 SOs), or a passed ball?

I’d much rather lose a game trying to win it, like we did last night, than lose a game hoping someone else will win it for us.

Categories: Rays

7 Responses

  1. Beardog says:

    Not sure I agree that it was the right move in THIS situation, for two reasons:
    1) The chance you’ll get a PB or WP from Posada is more than outweighed by the negligible chance of one from Rivera (12 career wild pitches; 4,557 career batters faced — that’s a WP per every year and a half).
    2) It’s not a typical risk vs. reward: It’s the *ultimate* risk vs. a less-than-ultimate reward. The reward (safe at third; two outs) doesn’t GUARANTEE that you win the game but the risk (out at third; inning over) does GUARANTEE that you lose the game. If the game’s tied in that situation it’s a great play b/c you’d have another chance in the 11th (even if you’re losing by then), but not when you’re already losing.

    • Mark says:

      Both good points. Plus, it should be noted that there is zero chance Crawford thought about any of these things before hitting the gas.

      Please note, I waited until Posada let passed-ball 143 skip to the backstop before responding to your comment. I also waited until Dan Johnson sent us back to the lead in the division.

      • Beardog says:

        When I get the chance to moderate YOUR posts, I’ll be deleting all personal pronouns.
        George: Oh with all due respect . . . I work for a team that just won the World Series.
        Jerry: And you were integral.

  2. Mark says:

    Wait? Are personal pronouns not allowed in journalism? Everything I know about writing I learned in the Ithaca College Sports Information Department…or something.

    Here is my new standard response to all grammar challenges:

    A woman from New York was visiting the South and stopped into the grocery store. The cashier said to her “what a neat accent, where ya’ll from?” The woman, flustered by the questions, turned her nose up and replied “we are from a place where people do not end sentences in prepositions!” The cashier went back to scanning the groceries and said “I’m sorry. Where ya’ll from from, b – - – -?”

  3. Beardog says:

    Yeah, good comeback Churchill. Where the hell’s Max?

  4. Jonathan says:

    OMG is this irony or what 142 reasons? Just read this today almost 3 months later.

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